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paul.matthijsse
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 Posted: 17th Oct 2009, Sat, 13:54 Post subject: RawTherapee will be GPL'ed! |
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Hello, I just read on this forum that the well known drSlony said that RT will be GPL'ed, meaning that Gabor is opening his code. This is great news of course! Now we can start to make a todo list.
Link here (bottom of page):
http://rawtherapee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9181#9181
Regards, Paul. |
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coldplug
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| Posted: 17th Oct 2009, Sat, 17:17 Post subject: |
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Nice to hear that, but only if that would mean faster and better development!
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Jacek Poplawski
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| Posted: 17th Oct 2009, Sat, 23:18 Post subject: |
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| This is awesome news! I will be happy to help with the code. |
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darrask
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| Posted: 18th Oct 2009, Sun, 10:26 Post subject: |
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| great news, hopefully! |
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paul.matthijsse
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| Posted: 18th Oct 2009, Sun, 21:33 Post subject: |
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| coldplug wrote: | | Nice to hear that, but only if that would mean faster and better development! |
Easy, if we can find 50 devs who'll work 24x7 on RT, the development might be a bit faster. But better??? We already have the most powerful raw convertor for linux on the planet (Gabor, merci bien!). So what exactly do you mean with 'better'? This is a nice moment to express yourself, as some people might start coding soon on this already very good software. |
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coldplug
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| Posted: 18th Oct 2009, Sun, 21:47 Post subject: |
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Better = not worse. So if RT will be worse after being GPL'd, that won't be good idea. That's the point of being better 
50 devs with 24x7 work time on RT? Came on, which software has so many coding power? Not even Adobe maybe  Even 5 fully zealous developers would mean much faster development than one man that is doing coding in his spare time. With 50 full time developers RT will make wonders, but I doubt this number will be easy to reach.
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pgtips
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| Posted: 19th Oct 2009, Mon, 07:01 Post subject: |
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It'll mean that we can work on things that annoy us but may not be seen as a "high priority" by others. For example, there are 2 things that annoy me a lot in RT but I don't think they're as sexy as a new demosaicing algorithm or better noise reduction or HDR.
I would like keyboard bindings for ranking images, 0 - 5 stars and I would also like to change the way the filtering by stars works so that it displays X stars or greater images rather than just X star images. These are fairly simple fixes but I don't think they're prioritised because they're not "sexy" |
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Jacek Poplawski
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| Posted: 19th Oct 2009, Mon, 10:01 Post subject: |
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| Even without single new developer it will be better, because everyone will compile RawTherapee for their system for their architecture and link with libraries they want. Currently it's impossible. And it's not possible to fix even small bug in the code, because all we see is binary. |
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paul.matthijsse
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| Posted: 19th Oct 2009, Mon, 19:36 Post subject: |
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| pgtips wrote: | | These are fairly simple fixes but I don't think they're prioritised because they're not "sexy" |
pgtips, you're completely right here -- not sexy at all! !) |
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paul.matthijsse
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| Posted: 19th Oct 2009, Mon, 20:10 Post subject: |
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| Jacek Poplawski wrote: | | Even without single new developer it will be better, because everyone will compile RawTherapee for their system for their architecture and link with libraries they want. |
Hello Jacek, dont't expect that an average user - more precise: a photographer - is able to do this. So that can be a task for an eventual new and greater dev team: compile RT for all platforms (including Mac) with the right libraries. Priority #1 is of course to solve all these recent crash issues on different platforms and with different cameras/raws.
| Jacek Poplawski wrote: | | And it's not possible to fix even small bug in the code, because all we see is binary. |
That was Gabor's choice and we need to respect that. He made a very nice piece of software, available for free, so we even can't complain! And I certainly don't. But I look forward as well for the source code, as I would like to change some things in the gui to start with, just for myself. Example: change the big Save button to some smaller buttons with labels like J50 (save as jpeg with compression 50), J95, t8 and t16, plus Web, for save as for web (800x600 or so).
Or introduce a new tab on the right side of the screen, called MyTab or so, where you can group all the functions that you use regularly. For me that would be most of the Exp. tab excluding Luminance, plus white balace and color boost, plus the two sharpening methods. |
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shrimp123
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| Posted: 20th Oct 2009, Tue, 01:27 Post subject: |
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gpl or not, this is one of the best pieces of s/w i have used. One of the few cases when my otherwise miserly pocket has opened.
I have a small suggestion to make (if indeed it is going to be gpl'ed)
- can there be a period after we are certain that it will be gpl'ed and before the event, so that more of us can reward the author in ways that may not be his primary reason for writing the s/w? some of use are known to procrastinate!
thanks
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Benjamin_L
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| Posted: 20th Oct 2009, Tue, 06:12 Post subject: |
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Thank you very much Gabor and the rest of the dev team, great work so far. Seems my donations have been put to the right place 
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oliver1974
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| Posted: 20th Oct 2009, Tue, 07:54 Post subject: |
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Very, very good news!! And if it's only for the guys maintaining the packages of the linux distributions.. no reason anymore NOT to include RawTherapee !!
Note to myself: Still need to send out a donation!!  |
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DrSlony
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| Posted: 20th Oct 2009, Tue, 09:47 Post subject: |
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shrimp123 no idea what you mean, could you be more specific?
You can donate to Gabor even once RT will be under the GPL license, RT will still consist mostly of his code probably even 2 years after being GPL'd. |
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shrimp123
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| Posted: 20th Oct 2009, Tue, 20:36 Post subject: |
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hi DrSlony
many gpl'ed projects also setup project funds. These will not favor the primary developer(s).
I was only suggesting that the primary developer(s) should benefit more. I remember that Gabor had once said that there was a target that would be nice to be met before thinking abt gpl.
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